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3dp



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Sharepoints and Mac Leopard (10.5) Reply with quote

Anyone having any luck with SharePoints and the new Mac Leopard (10.5)?
I did the upgrade and now SharePoints is broken. Crashes every time I try to set up shares. Thanks for any help!
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Wander2000



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Sharing Reply with quote

In the meantime, try opening System Preferences, the Sharing tab, select File Sharing, and many of Sharepoint's features are now available in Leopard.

Now there seems to be a problem with Windows shares. Many people, including myself, are no longer able to see Windows shares in the Network tab. If you type the ip address, you can seem them, but not with the Netbios name. I think this is a bug.
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3dp



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:46 am    Post subject: more info Reply with quote

Let me give a little more info. What I'm doing is serving a MVIX media center from a Mac share over ethernet so it's more of a guest auto login type thing. I've tried the sharing tab in Leopard, it does have some features from SharPoints but I can't get the MVIX to see it.
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mhorn
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please view this FAQ entry concerning Leopard:

http://www.hornware.com/faq/index.php?qid=23

I will be updating it with information as it becomes available.
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sharkus



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgive me if this is the incorrect place to post this information.

I've run the SharePoints 3.5.4 application on 10.5 (GM release, build 9A581) and there does indeed seem to be an issue.

When the main app window appears, no shares are listed. I had been using SP under 10.4.10 and did have shares configured, and then upgraded to 10.5.

The app does not appear to be crashing. The system.log contains the following information:

Code:

Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 /Applications/SharePoints 3.5.4/SharePoints.app/Contents/MacOS/SharePoints[10102]: NetInfo stub: ni_open
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 SharePoints[10102]: Can't connect to local NetInfo server
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 /Applications/SharePoints 3.5.4/SharePoints.app/Contents/MacOS/SharePoints[10102]: NetInfo stub: ni_open
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 SharePoints[10102]: Can't connect to local NetInfo server
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 /Applications/SharePoints 3.5.4/SharePoints.app/Contents/MacOS/SharePoints[10102]: NetInfo stub: ni_open
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 SharePoints[10102]: Can't connect to local NetInfo server
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 /Applications/SharePoints 3.5.4/SharePoints.app/Contents/MacOS/SharePoints[10102]: NetInfo stub: ni_open
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 SharePoints[10102]: Can't connect to local NetInfo server
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 /Applications/SharePoints 3.5.4/SharePoints.app/Contents/MacOS/SharePoints[10102]: NetInfo stub: ni_open
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 SharePoints[10102]: Can't connect to local NetInfo server
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 /Applications/SharePoints 3.5.4/SharePoints.app/Contents/MacOS/SharePoints[10102]: NetInfo stub: ni_open
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 SharePoints[10102]: Can't connect to local NetInfo server
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 /Applications/SharePoints 3.5.4/SharePoints.app/Contents/MacOS/SharePoints[10102]: NetInfo stub: ni_open
Oct 30 09:22:42 243-56-222-209 SharePoints[10102]: Can't connect to local NetInfo server


Console.log does not appear to contain any relevant information.

The above does make some sense as I believe Directory Services has changed in 10.5.

If any other information is required, feel free to ask and I will try and obtain it for you.
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sharkus



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some more info that may be of use.

Firstly, NetInfo manager no longer exists in 10.5, so you need to use terminal and dscl, which isn't too much of a problem. NetInfo manager won't actually run if you copy it from a 10.4 machine either, some of the functions it needs cannot be found.

Anyway, one thing I have noticed, which could/does explain why SP gives the errors in my prior post is due to the path change in DS.

Under 10.4 the path via dscl to a shared folder is:

/NetInfo/root/config/SharePoints/nameofshare

Under 10.5, via the built in filesharing capabilities, the path is:

/Local/Default/SharePoints/nameofshare

I'd guess the connection to the netinfo server is failing due to the path change
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sharkus



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the record info for a share created using the built-in facility in 10.5:

Code:

dsAttrTypeNative:afp_guestaccess: 1
dsAttrTypeNative:afp_name: mynewshare
dsAttrTypeNative:afp_shared: 1
dsAttrTypeNative:directory_path: /mynewshare
dsAttrTypeNative:ftp_name: mynewshare
dsAttrTypeNative:sharepoint_group_id: BFE46575-FBC7-4CB3-98F8-9D1DC2DE3160
dsAttrTypeNative:smb_createmask: 644
dsAttrTypeNative:smb_directorymask: 755
dsAttrTypeNative:smb_guestaccess: 1
dsAttrTypeNative:smb_name: mynewshare
dsAttrTypeNative:smb_shared: 1
AppleMetaNodeLocation: /Local/Default
RecordName: mynewshare
RecordType: dsRecTypeStandard:SharePoints
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mhorn
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is very useful information. It will be a big help. Thank you.
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sharkus



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mhorn wrote:
This is very useful information. It will be a big help. Thank you.


No problem whatsoever. As said, if you need any further info, or need me to test an update, let me know.
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beagleboy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: My fix Reply with quote

Hi 3dp

I to had this problem and fixed it by:

1. Creating a new account in System Preferences with the password left blank, then
2. Under System Preferences/Sharing/File Sharing I added the folder I wanted to share to the Shared Folders list
3. In the Users list I made sure that User "Everyone" had at least Read access
4. Then finally under Options I set up this account to "sharing files and folders using SMB"

This worked for me and I can now watch my movies again.

cheers BB
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dwhitney



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read and understand that SP is not currently compatible with Leopard... however what I am wondering is...

I have a hard drive attached to an Airport Xtreme Router (via USB). The main share on the drive was originally created with sharepoints when directly connected to one of my macs. I went and upgraded both of the macs in my house this evening to Leopard and now neither of them can mount the share anymore. They are showing as a type of Sharepoints (ie.- I can see the disk on both macs and that the share is there but can't connect to it - get an error that the server is unavailable). I've confirmed the share is still available from a PC though.

Am I out of luck accessing that drive and share on Leopard until a Leopard compatible SP is released? (I HOPE NOT!)

Thanks.
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3dp



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: It worked! Reply with quote

THANKS Beagleboy!
Your suggestion worked like a charm. Thanks for posting!
Movies are serving up once again.
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mhorn
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dwitney,

Have you tried deleting the share and then recreating it in the new Sharing preference pane?
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dwhitney



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly how would I got about removing a sharepoints share if I don't have an active/compatible version of sharepoints to run to remove the that share? (I'm in an all Leopard install environment now)

Sorry if I am missing the obvious here...

Thanks.
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FatherShawn



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mhorn wrote:
Please view this FAQ entry concerning Leopard:

http://www.hornware.com/faq/index.php?qid=23

I will be updating it with information as it becomes available.


I'm really looking forward to your release. I've used SharePoints along with AutoMounter for years as part of the solution to create a "thin" two Mac network with home folders accessible on both Macs via the network.

So I'm particularly interested in setting up an automountable afp share point as described on pages 117-188 of User Management 10.5 for OS X Server. I've been able to do this before using your two products and NetInfo Manager.

I know that I might need to either dive into dscl or find another tool, but I'm hoping that your products can help with the automountable share part!
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